Rachel Bernstein

Oh, it is my pleasure. This is such an important discussion. It taps into so many different issues. And it was a pleasure to speak with you before. And I was really looking forward to what I think is going to feel like a continuation of our conversation today.

Oh, it is my pleasure. This is such an important discussion. It taps into so many different issues. And it was a pleasure to speak with you before. And I was really looking forward to what I think is going to feel like a continuation of our conversation today.

Oh, it is my pleasure. This is such an important discussion. It taps into so many different issues. And it was a pleasure to speak with you before. And I was really looking forward to what I think is going to feel like a continuation of our conversation today.

Yeah, it's interesting because when I was growing up, I had a sibling who got involved in a cult, so it was sort of dinner table conversation about, you know, that this can happen to someone and they can get kind of plucked out of their own life and out of their own sense of reality and not know what's real and have a whole misdirection about whom to trust and whom not to. And that...

Yeah, it's interesting because when I was growing up, I had a sibling who got involved in a cult, so it was sort of dinner table conversation about, you know, that this can happen to someone and they can get kind of plucked out of their own life and out of their own sense of reality and not know what's real and have a whole misdirection about whom to trust and whom not to. And that...

Yeah, it's interesting because when I was growing up, I had a sibling who got involved in a cult, so it was sort of dinner table conversation about, you know, that this can happen to someone and they can get kind of plucked out of their own life and out of their own sense of reality and not know what's real and have a whole misdirection about whom to trust and whom not to. And that...

It can be so compelling and so immediate and that you can see this personality shift. And I thought, what is that? I mean, are there people out in corners like trying to hypnotize people? Because you don't see that. So where are these people and how do they get their talents in? And why is it that it's so effective?

It can be so compelling and so immediate and that you can see this personality shift. And I thought, what is that? I mean, are there people out in corners like trying to hypnotize people? Because you don't see that. So where are these people and how do they get their talents in? And why is it that it's so effective?

It can be so compelling and so immediate and that you can see this personality shift. And I thought, what is that? I mean, are there people out in corners like trying to hypnotize people? Because you don't see that. So where are these people and how do they get their talents in? And why is it that it's so effective?

I realized as I was graduating with my teaching credentials, which I loved doing, and I, again, still do, I really wanted to do this work. We couldn't find resources at the time for therapists, counselors, social workers, anyone who kind of really knew about this in the 70s, 80s. And I thought, well, why don't I do this too? So I went on for a master's and then just really found it fascinating.

I realized as I was graduating with my teaching credentials, which I loved doing, and I, again, still do, I really wanted to do this work. We couldn't find resources at the time for therapists, counselors, social workers, anyone who kind of really knew about this in the 70s, 80s. And I thought, well, why don't I do this too? So I went on for a master's and then just really found it fascinating.

I realized as I was graduating with my teaching credentials, which I loved doing, and I, again, still do, I really wanted to do this work. We couldn't find resources at the time for therapists, counselors, social workers, anyone who kind of really knew about this in the 70s, 80s. And I thought, well, why don't I do this too? So I went on for a master's and then just really found it fascinating.

In fact, the professor who taught the group therapy course in my master's program actually ran it like a cult, which was very interesting. And I think she didn't do that on purpose to teach a lesson. I just noticed. And I went to the dean to say the following things are happening. And the dean was actually pretty alarmed.

In fact, the professor who taught the group therapy course in my master's program actually ran it like a cult, which was very interesting. And I think she didn't do that on purpose to teach a lesson. I just noticed. And I went to the dean to say the following things are happening. And the dean was actually pretty alarmed.

In fact, the professor who taught the group therapy course in my master's program actually ran it like a cult, which was very interesting. And I think she didn't do that on purpose to teach a lesson. I just noticed. And I went to the dean to say the following things are happening. And the dean was actually pretty alarmed.

And it helped me realize, too, that this can happen in so many different places and kind of under people's noses and under the guise of teaching. And with the trappings of it being something professional and with a teacher who's teaching at USC in a master's program and should be able to be trusted. Just because someone's wearing a lab coat doesn't mean you can trust them.

And it helped me realize, too, that this can happen in so many different places and kind of under people's noses and under the guise of teaching. And with the trappings of it being something professional and with a teacher who's teaching at USC in a master's program and should be able to be trusted. Just because someone's wearing a lab coat doesn't mean you can trust them.

And it helped me realize, too, that this can happen in so many different places and kind of under people's noses and under the guise of teaching. And with the trappings of it being something professional and with a teacher who's teaching at USC in a master's program and should be able to be trusted. Just because someone's wearing a lab coat doesn't mean you can trust them.

So just because someone's sitting in the therapist chair doesn't mean you can trust them. Just even though someone has taken on the role of parent doesn't mean you can trust them. And so how do you discern? So that sort of became my thing. And that's why I decided after 30 some odd years of doing this, I was listening to so many people's stories in my office and then on Zoom.

So just because someone's sitting in the therapist chair doesn't mean you can trust them. Just even though someone has taken on the role of parent doesn't mean you can trust them. And so how do you discern? So that sort of became my thing. And that's why I decided after 30 some odd years of doing this, I was listening to so many people's stories in my office and then on Zoom.