Rachel Bilson

No one knew how to be or react, you know, and I think it was just a result of that alone, the stress of it all.

Yeah.

Because do you think if the pandemic hadn't happened, maybe... I mean, I would think it probably would have went on maybe a little longer, but then in retrospect, looking at it, you're like, obviously, it...

I think that's everything.

And I think people and as you get older, you know, I'm 40 years old.

You go through all these experiences and you're like, oh, I'm taking things from each thing.

Right.

So there's always a positive because it's like I recognize something in this relationship that did not work for me.

So the next time I need this and I've gotten to a place now where I know exactly what I want, what I need.

And for the first time, I'm not afraid to say it.

Hmm.

Like someone controlling is never good.

Never.

You know.

Never.

And I like I said people pleasing I was definitely weaker and I could like be subjected to that and be like OK like yeah I'll just do whatever he says.

And that's a pattern with me in a lot of the relationships I've had.

So that's something like huge that I'm like no I need to make my decisions and I need to stick to what I know and be strong like the strength in me would always be a lot weaker in relationships when I was younger than

And now being older, I know exactly like how to speak up for myself, I should say.

Yeah.