Rachel Carlson

Oh, but that's not something you can count on in the future.

Right.

Especially not with climate change.

They were super lucky.

And Erin says a few years later during COVID-19,

All she could think about was how many times every single day people were washing their hands.

So you can kind of hear Gina, Erin's mindset around water has flipped since 2017.

And that's the kind of thing Kaveh says needs to happen for all of us.

Because people often assume water is abundant.

Or maybe at worst, they say there's a crisis.

At this point, Kaveh says maybe we're past the point of crisis.

Exactly.

And my conversations with people like Kaveh who study water and people like Aaron who understand how precious water is...

all came down to one thing.

We treat water like it's free, but we can't.

Yes, we're talking about running.

Also, why intermittent fasting might not be a good weight loss solution.

All that on this episode of Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

Okay, Mary Louise, where should we start?

Yeah, so some people might fast every other day.