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Rachel Carlson

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How To Disagree Better

So today on the show, the neuroscience of disagreement.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

When we have the opportunity to engage with someone who thinks differently than we do, what's going on in our brains, and how can we make the most of those conversations?

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

Okay, Emily, imagine that you and I are about to have a disagreement.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

So our pupils might dilate, our heart might start racing, and we might start to sweat a little more.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

That's Rudy Mendoza-Denton.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

He's a professor of psychology at UC Berkeley.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

Rudy co-teaches a class from Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center on bridging differences.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

He says we might not even notice these things while they're happening to us.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

But on top of all of them, we start making these split-second decisions about whether or not we trust someone just by looking at their faces.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

Those decisions, though, aren't always accurate.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

Who's that?

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

That's Oriole Feldman-Hall, a researcher and social neuroscientist at Brown University.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

And she says when we interact with someone we've decided is untrustworthy, or even someone who just belongs to another group than us, our amygdala starts to respond.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

Yeah, our amygdala.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

That is like our brain's threat detector.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

I found a study from 2021 looking at exactly that.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

So I called up the lead researcher, Joy Hirsch, to talk about it.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

She's a neuroscience professor at Yale School of Medicine.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

And the beauty of this study is that Joy and her team monitored the brains of multiple people at once while they talked to each other, which is so, so cool because it's pretty new in the neuroscience world.

Short Wave
How To Disagree Better

Usually you're just looking at one person's brain at