Rachel Cruze

Well, yeah, they make you pay like some taxes, but it was like $200 or something like that.

Yeah, I haven't done the math, but it's probably a couple hundred grand or something like that.

There we go.

Well, okay, so here's the thing.

I use my credit cards for everything.

I believe it.

Yeah, I pay my bills.

I pay everything that doesn't charge me a fee for using a credit card.

Right, if they charge me even a penny, I won't use my credit card.

So I don't pay my mortgage or anything like that with my credit cards.

But there are actually a lot of things that I can pay with my credit card.

I do my groceries with my credit card, all of my regular spending.

And that adds up to quite a bit throughout the years.

Yeah.

No, look, I totally agree with you guys as far as... Hello?

Rachel was laughing because you don't agree.

Especially with the part that you don't feel the money coming out of you when you're using a credit card.

Yeah.

So my question is... I wish we had time for more, Miguel.

Well, the 20K of that