Rachel Mann

daring to delve particularly into suppressed archives or suppressed histories or almost lost stories.

I mean, things that are so lost that maybe they don't even quite exist.

I could get very pretentious about time and reality, and then I feel like I end up in a Marvel Cinematic Universe conversation.

I'm just not up to Yogi's level on that, really.

But just to say that...

There's something about being disruptive of what I call capitalist time.

That sense of, well, everything just has to move forward.

It's about progress.

It's about better.

It's about growth.

It's about that particular kind of movement.

And the thing about research and archives and history is that it enables us to revision

all of those things that we consider unavoidable.

And indeed unavoidable in poetry.

So much so that, I mean, so much of my syntax and style as a poet, which I know is pretty arch, but it draws on Anglo-Saxon medieval and Renaissance poetry deliberately

to create a kind of new moment, which says, hey, because we can speak differently, we can think differently.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Thanks, Patrick.