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Isn't there also a practical consideration for a lot of people?

Because the cost of living is very different now than it was, like, say, in the 1950s or the 1960s.

And it's very difficult for a lot of people to get by on one income.

Yes, it is.

But have you ever asked why that is?

I have, but I'd love to hear you talk about it.

So prior to the 1970s, we had 5% of mothers with school-age kids working outside the home.

And for all of human history, even during the Industrial Revolution, you know, 17, 18, 1900s, like you said, in the 40s and 50s,

you could be a janitor and support a family and have four kids on one income.

And something shifted in the 1970s and it's never shifted back.

So it can't be like how the stock market's doing.

It can't really be like all these other independent economic factors that have shifted and changed and been so different over the course of the last 50 years.

The one big thing that we changed is we pushed women into college and into the workforce.

And by the 1980s, they were on par with

men in workforce participation.

So in the span of about 20 years, we almost doubled the labor force by pushing all the women in and men's wages have never recovered.