Rachel Wilson

And she said, nobody's really born a man or a woman anymore.

You're either you're on this spectrum and some people are more on the male side and some people are more on the female.

But nobody is like fully one or the other.

It's a spectrum.

I had that argument once with a guy who was a professor.

It was one of the dumbest conversations I've ever had on this podcast.

And I eventually had to say to him, if you go buy a puppy and it's a boy puppy, but you wanted a girl puppy, do you say that there is no gender?

What do you do?

Right.

What do you do?

What are we talking about here?

You're saying that some men don't exist, that men aren't real, that women aren't real, that no one is a man and no one is a woman?

That's crazy.

How did you get here?

You got here because someone with an XY chromosome had sex with someone with an XX chromosome, and that's how it works.

It's like a biological definition based on objective reality.

Like, we all know that, but there's this weird fucking dance.

And that dance, if you keep just asking questions, like, why is that dance?

What are you doing?

Like, why are you saying that?