Rahm Emanuel

So let me say that the United States, while maybe never totally lived up to its idealistic claims, it was more consistent with it.

even when it did things in violation of that.

I think him saying is, okay, the game is off.

The mask has been ripped off.

There's actually no even head faking these aspirational goals.

Yeah, I mean, there is going to be a legacy of damage and collateral damage from the United States walking away from not just that it constructed this,

It constructed an international economic, political, and strategic – that's what I would call NATO and other allies in Europe – a whole set of systems that we benefited from.

Let me give one example of having been ambassador to Japan for the United States.

When we deployed export controls against the semiconductor industry of China –

We had Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Dutch, and the Europeans standing with us.

So we didn't have to do it alone.

As we saw, the president tried to do something against China alone and folded.

That's where the phrase tackle comes from.

But because we had allies who were invested with the United States—

China used to say we're being isolated, and the answer was, ding, you're right.

But it was isolated because allies stood shoulder to shoulder with us.

So we were a direct beneficiary when we wanted a strategic objective.

We had an army that came, and it wasn't just U.S., and I mean that metaphorically, not economic, et cetera.

But that was an example.

of having people work with us.