Rahul Tandon

I mean, I'm not quite sure that they're ever going to be able to get on.

No, I just came off the phone to somebody in Shanghai, the commercial capital, who said, look, he'd been speaking to a lot of Chinese CEOs.

They're not even paying that much interest to this.

They don't think a lot's going to come out of it, but they do think, good, communication is taking place.

There's tariffs, so Michelle's not going to be as busy as she was for a while.

They're not going back up.

And they have some idea in the business.

But I spoke a while ago to one of the leading economists in China.

He's still advising the government there.

And he said the mindset of China –

has changed here.

The US is seen as unreliable.

They want to be the stable player in the global economy.

Now, Michelle, that is quite a change, isn't it?

And I think every time there's a problem between China and the US, my friends in India, I get phone calls, great news, you know, more iPhones coming to India.

On the other hand, I was meeting somebody in Vietnam and they said, look, great for our economy, you know, lots of exports have gone up, but we need a relationship with China.

China.

They are our biggest market.

And that is the problem.

Everybody trying to juggle these two countries.