Rainn Wilson

That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about that part of yourself that is like,

envious and competitive to a fault and wants to put your, it's a narcissistic part of yourself, wants to put yourself above someone else.

It compares yourself to others that wants to like obtain and get and try and satisfy itself like a dragon with its horde.

And

So I would have maybe shown myself some writings about the struggle with the ego if I'm cutting back to 2005, 2006 and those years.

I had a lot of ego struggles.

And even though I had done a lot of thinking and meditating and reading about spiritual practices and

and mindfulness and whatnot, I was not able to put that in play.

So, it just became... life after the office became, you know, like a pachinko machine?

You know, the little ball goes... You know, like that?

Like, my life and my ego became like a pachinko machine, where it's like...

this success and here's a bunch of money and you get this movie.

Oh, the movie bombed that whole, you get a different one and this and this and all they want to do.

And you won this award and oh, you lost the Emmy to Jeremy Piven and oh, this is it.

So it's like, so it's all of this stuff outside of yourself.

But where is that?

Where's that garden, um, that we can, that we can nurture and grow within ourselves.

Cause that, that garden you can take with you anywhere.

Yeah.