Rainn Wilson

Like, I'm not saying, like, I'm still a colossal fuck-up, but, you know, I have some consciousness.

And I look at my phone all the time.

I'm scrolling constantly.

What do you watch?

I watch YouTube and I watch clips and I read news articles and I text friends pictures of my ingrown hairs.

And it drives my wife batty.

Do you have any rules as a parent regarding phones?

We had, my son is almost 21 now, so he's going to have to figure this out on his own.

And we do have conversations with him about it.

And he talks about his struggles, you know, and just like, I'll wake up and all of a sudden it's an hour and a half later and I've realized that I've just been...

you know looking at clips on my phone and i could have been reading a book or doing my homework or writing a song or you know something walking in nature um but yeah we have rules in the evening we put our phones away i try and charge my phone not by the bed but like out in the hallway i try and wake up in the morning and read an actual book and you know arthur brooks if you haven't had him on the show he's he's a brilliant uh

a happiness expert from Harvard University.

And he talks about making sure that you get the sunlight on your face before you have your screen shining on your face.

The first light on your face, let it be the sunlight of the outdoors and not your screen.

One question we have for every guest that comes on Soul Boom is like, how do you define the word soul?

So let me ask you that.

How do you define the word soul?

Especially as a doctor.

All right, smart ass.

All right.