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Ramtin Naimi

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1465 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

It used to be, I want to maintain an average entry valuation of sub 20 million.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

That's become impossible.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I used to be able to do that, but I could no longer maintain an average entry valuation of sub 20 million.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Maybe my average entry valuation today I want to maintain is sub 30 million.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

That means sometimes I'll do a deal at 15 posts because I found a deal that was off the beaten path and it's a pre-seed.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Maybe I took an early bet on people.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Sometimes I'll do a deal at 50 posts, but if I can maintain an average entry valuation of sub 30, it'll be nice.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

If you start doing too many deals that are north of your 30, you start messing up your portfolio construction model because the more deals you do over 30, the less number of shots you have on goal.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Because if my goals have 60 companies per fund and suddenly my entry valuation starts to deviate from what I modeled in my portfolio construction model, then I start needing to consider myself, is investing in this company worth losing one shot on goal out of this fund?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

That's kind of when you start thinking about price a little bit more discerningly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And sometimes the answer is yes.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I'm just like, I want to invest in this company.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

This company needs to be in the fund.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

You kind of need to convince yourself that you like it twice as much as another company in your fund because you're shooting two bullets on one deal.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

But once we've decided to invest in a company, price tends to be not something that dissuades us from investing in that company until it gets so egregious that you can no longer call it a seed deal.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

That's basically our point of view.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Obviously, we try to get it to fit within the confines of our portfolio construction model.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

But oftentimes, you have to deviate from that to get the company into your portfolio because ultimately, venture is an outlier's business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

You have no idea if the deal that you passed on due to price will be the outlier.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

So you kind of just have to swallow the bullet sometimes.