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Ramtin Naimi

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1465 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And then you're starting to invest in managers that you think could find alpha in one way or another.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

The part of the ecosystem that seems unhealthy to me

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

and is very reminiscent of 2021, is the timeline from graduation from seed to A, A to B, B to C. In the last six months, I think I've funded seven companies that have already raised Series A rounds within weeks of me leading their seed financings.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And at a four to five X multiple at which I financed the company at just a few weeks prior,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

and not a whole lot of fundamental business progress in that timeframe.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And that hasn't happened since 2021.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

In 2021, I was funding companies and within a couple of months, the series A got done.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And that is very actively happening again.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I'm funding companies that are raising A's within a couple of months and then B's within a couple of months after that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And if you look at the company relative to what I invested in versus what the company is today, they're basically just paying 10 times the price for the same exact company I invested in a couple of months or four months ago.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

plus or minus a few hires and maybe some design partners.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

So I do think the industry is getting a little drunk on IRR.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

And the same thing that happened in 2021 is happening again in terms of my latest funds are coming out of Jcurb way too quickly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I think in venture, your IRR should be backweighted.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Should be rising.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

Exactly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

In the 2021 vintage and the latest vintage, our funds are getting to 30 to 40% IRR within the first few months of initial deployment, which shouldn't be the case.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

It should be negative IRR, at least during the deployment period.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

The velocity at which companies are raising follow-on funding is a little jarring.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]

I had a very non-traditional by Silicon Valley standards childhood.