Rand Paul

So one thing I would tell these left-wing cities is if you want less ice in your city, why don't you police your city?

Yeah, but they don't want to police their city.

Right.

I think that local police is better than national police.

But the only way you can have local police is the local police have to enforce the law.

And so they are breaking the law and having an obscure – a bizarre way of interpreting the law to say we are going to defy the national immigration laws.

So I think it would be better done by the local cities.

But if the local cities aren't going to do it, then you have to have national agents going in and it is a tragedy.

But like I say, I also have sympathy for the people that are in law enforcement trying to do a very difficult job.

You know, I don't know that I want to go too much into the specifics of it because I don't want to pass judgment like a jury would because really someone will have to go into and look specifically at every fact and every angle and every angle of camera.

So I don't like to judge criminal things that happen in our country and say, well, that person needs to go to jail or that person is innocent.

I don't know that I can make that judgment.

And then am I coloring the situation for anybody who will have to make that judgment someday on some kind of jury?

I've seen somewhere that it doesn't greatly exceed some of the deportations under Obama.

That the numbers aren't as big as you think they are.

I don't know what the numbers are.

Yeah, I don't know what the number is.

The numbers are in the millions, but I think it's hard to estimate because some of them didn't get – if you're not getting caught, how do we estimate how many there are?

But I think millions of people came in, and I think it was a tragedy.

And like I say, it's one of the things Donald Trump has been an absolute success on is controlling the southern border.