Rand Paul

Then we lost all knowledge of natural immunity.

But the good news is in 2025, we're starting to get back that knowledge.

But this was Anthony Fauci knew better.

You know, he couldn't even read his own basic immunology books about, you know.

The fact that you do develop immunity, is it perfect?

No.

Can you get COVID more than once?

Yes.

But I defy you to tell me somebody who got it the second time who died the second time.

You know what I mean?

People got it less severely so the second time they got it, if they got it at all.

And I understand you did so well because your personal doctor was Sanjay Gupta.

That clip of you and he on the program is my favorite clip of all time.

I think it brings up a broader question too, that when people tell you there's a consensus and because the consensus exists, you cannot object.

I think that's a real danger to openness, to new ideas, but it's also a danger in medicine.

And in medicine to say, this is the consensus and we're not going to do this.

So in the first month of this,

maybe first or second month, Fauci comes in and I said, you know, many people who die from the flesh-eating bacteria, which is not the same, but it's a serious illness, what they give them to try to treat them to prevent death and loss of limbs is high-dose IV steroids.

And I had a friend whose life was saved.

He didn't lose any of his limbs and he had this terrible illness.