Rand Paul

Well, federal is different.

Some states have $15 an hour.

What's federal now?

Federal is still like $7.

It's inconsequential.

$7 is probably gone now.

Yeah, I think that and I don't disagree with what you're saying on having a safety net, but we have to have tough love involved with it.

And we have to have the idea that it's it's temporary and we're trying to get you to another place.

Right.

So food stamps, when they started, were really primarily for mothers, single mothers with many kids who can't work.

So mom can't work.

We didn't want them all to starve.

She has four kids.

And once you've had the kids, I'm not against that.

They're there and you got to do something with the kids.

But we didn't give it to...

able-bodied, you know, 21-year-old men who are in college didn't get it or able-bodied men who are out of high school didn't get it.

You didn't do that because they need to work and they still can work.

There are jobs everywhere for able-bodied people.

So we have to look carefully at all these programs.