Randall Carlson

But what I've been able to see, he's kind of taken it to the furthest extent. And he knew some of the big names of the inventors that preceded him. And so he was able to draw a lot on their work and he gives everybody credit. So yeah, I think he's really, I mean, he's a humanitarian. He doesn't really want anything. He just wants to be a recluse on his island. That's all he wants, really.

But what I've been able to see, he's kind of taken it to the furthest extent. And he knew some of the big names of the inventors that preceded him. And so he was able to draw a lot on their work and he gives everybody credit. So yeah, I think he's really, I mean, he's a humanitarian. He doesn't really want anything. He just wants to be a recluse on his island. That's all he wants, really.

But what I've been able to see, he's kind of taken it to the furthest extent. And he knew some of the big names of the inventors that preceded him. And so he was able to draw a lot on their work and he gives everybody credit. So yeah, I think he's really, I mean, he's a humanitarian. He doesn't really want anything. He just wants to be a recluse on his island. That's all he wants, really.

And I feel like that he's perhaps vindicated his life. But yeah, so this Roland Perry wrote a book called The Shaman, which is basically, I mean, what Roland told me, he says the book is basically true, but I wrote it as fiction because it's so bizarre that most people won't the only way I could really put it out there was disguise it as fiction.

And I feel like that he's perhaps vindicated his life. But yeah, so this Roland Perry wrote a book called The Shaman, which is basically, I mean, what Roland told me, he says the book is basically true, but I wrote it as fiction because it's so bizarre that most people won't the only way I could really put it out there was disguise it as fiction.

And I feel like that he's perhaps vindicated his life. But yeah, so this Roland Perry wrote a book called The Shaman, which is basically, I mean, what Roland told me, he says the book is basically true, but I wrote it as fiction because it's so bizarre that most people won't the only way I could really put it out there was disguise it as fiction.

No. So what happened was when, uh, when I was going to go back on, I didn't know when, when Rogan invited me back on after the episode with Graham, you know, I didn't know that I hadn't met Malcolm at that time. I don't think, um, yeah, I'm pretty sure I hadn't met him. So, but then when I came back, that I think it was November, um, of what year, with Graham.

No. So what happened was when, uh, when I was going to go back on, I didn't know when, when Rogan invited me back on after the episode with Graham, you know, I didn't know that I hadn't met Malcolm at that time. I don't think, um, yeah, I'm pretty sure I hadn't met him. So, but then when I came back, that I think it was November, um, of what year, with Graham.

No. So what happened was when, uh, when I was going to go back on, I didn't know when, when Rogan invited me back on after the episode with Graham, you know, I didn't know that I hadn't met Malcolm at that time. I don't think, um, yeah, I'm pretty sure I hadn't met him. So, but then when I came back, that I think it was November, um, of what year, with Graham.

And then I came back in, was it February? 24, right? Yeah. And at that point was when Malcolm was here. So I was with myself. Who was your most difficult where you're doing the interview, you're like, dude, I can't wait for this thing to finish.

And then I came back in, was it February? 24, right? Yeah. And at that point was when Malcolm was here. So I was with myself. Who was your most difficult where you're doing the interview, you're like, dude, I can't wait for this thing to finish.

And then I came back in, was it February? 24, right? Yeah. And at that point was when Malcolm was here. So I was with myself. Who was your most difficult where you're doing the interview, you're like, dude, I can't wait for this thing to finish.

He probably was.

He probably was.

He probably was.

Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh

Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh

Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh

So he just hadn't really dove deep enough into it. The problem is now is again, there's way too many independent people that have been involved with it. And like I said, skeptics, um, that have, you know, tested it rigorously. I've been present when, you know, scientists from Los Alamos laboratory are testing it. Right. And they're like, okay, this works.

So he just hadn't really dove deep enough into it. The problem is now is again, there's way too many independent people that have been involved with it. And like I said, skeptics, um, that have, you know, tested it rigorously. I've been present when, you know, scientists from Los Alamos laboratory are testing it. Right. And they're like, okay, this works.