Randall Carlson

Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh

Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh

Well, so when we go in there and Jamie had pulled up all of this stuff, this whole thing with shale oil. and uh their their strategy was basically we see it in politics now all the time to basically paint him as a charlatan and um and that that's when we walked in jamie had printed out all of this stuff and it was joe do nothing about any of it now he's looking at all of this stuff and uh

So he just hadn't really dove deep enough into it. The problem is now is again, there's way too many independent people that have been involved with it. And like I said, skeptics, um, that have, you know, tested it rigorously. I've been present when, you know, scientists from Los Alamos laboratory are testing it. Right. And they're like, okay, this works.

So he just hadn't really dove deep enough into it. The problem is now is again, there's way too many independent people that have been involved with it. And like I said, skeptics, um, that have, you know, tested it rigorously. I've been present when, you know, scientists from Los Alamos laboratory are testing it. Right. And they're like, okay, this works.

So he just hadn't really dove deep enough into it. The problem is now is again, there's way too many independent people that have been involved with it. And like I said, skeptics, um, that have, you know, tested it rigorously. I've been present when, you know, scientists from Los Alamos laboratory are testing it. Right. And they're like, okay, this works.

But, you know, he's a controversial character. And when you hear his story, it sounds unbelievable. That's why Roland Perry wrote it up as a fictional account. But from my knowledge, I haven't seen anything outside of the fact that he had this whole period where they were trying to scare away investors.

But, you know, he's a controversial character. And when you hear his story, it sounds unbelievable. That's why Roland Perry wrote it up as a fictional account. But from my knowledge, I haven't seen anything outside of the fact that he had this whole period where they were trying to scare away investors.

But, you know, he's a controversial character. And when you hear his story, it sounds unbelievable. That's why Roland Perry wrote it up as a fictional account. But from my knowledge, I haven't seen anything outside of the fact that he had this whole period where they were trying to scare away investors.

And so they bribed journalists, they bribed politicians in Australia and Tasmania to create this impression. And the problem is, I guess you could say, is Malcolm, you know, like I said, he's an eccentric character.

And so they bribed journalists, they bribed politicians in Australia and Tasmania to create this impression. And the problem is, I guess you could say, is Malcolm, you know, like I said, he's an eccentric character.

And so they bribed journalists, they bribed politicians in Australia and Tasmania to create this impression. And the problem is, I guess you could say, is Malcolm, you know, like I said, he's an eccentric character.

So, you know, when you start interviewing him, you know, and you've got this context of, you know, that he is this whatever grifter or whatever, and then you're talking to him, you know, some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is pretty unbelievable. Yeah. And he says he got in a gunfight with assassins. And Joe was like, get out of here.

So, you know, when you start interviewing him, you know, and you've got this context of, you know, that he is this whatever grifter or whatever, and then you're talking to him, you know, some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is pretty unbelievable. Yeah. And he says he got in a gunfight with assassins. And Joe was like, get out of here.

So, you know, when you start interviewing him, you know, and you've got this context of, you know, that he is this whatever grifter or whatever, and then you're talking to him, you know, some of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is pretty unbelievable. Yeah. And he says he got in a gunfight with assassins. And Joe was like, get out of here.

Yeah, and I've talked to Roland. And Roland, like I said, he's highly credible. You look him up, he's probably one of Australia's best-selling authors. And he's also got connections. He was an investigative journalist. And he said, yeah, I spent five years investigating him. So, so there's this whole other backstory that Joe was completely unfamiliar with. Gotcha.

Yeah, and I've talked to Roland. And Roland, like I said, he's highly credible. You look him up, he's probably one of Australia's best-selling authors. And he's also got connections. He was an investigative journalist. And he said, yeah, I spent five years investigating him. So, so there's this whole other backstory that Joe was completely unfamiliar with. Gotcha.

Yeah, and I've talked to Roland. And Roland, like I said, he's highly credible. You look him up, he's probably one of Australia's best-selling authors. And he's also got connections. He was an investigative journalist. And he said, yeah, I spent five years investigating him. So, so there's this whole other backstory that Joe was completely unfamiliar with. Gotcha.

And what I would do is if we go back then, and I've, I've, I've actually refrained from going back on Joe's because when, when I was on there that February, I believe when it was, I knew that that following summer, that there was a whole testing regimen that was going to be underway. I mean, I can show you now they've, they've, you know, there's a, there's a, uh, a substation outside of London.

And what I would do is if we go back then, and I've, I've, I've actually refrained from going back on Joe's because when, when I was on there that February, I believe when it was, I knew that that following summer, that there was a whole testing regimen that was going to be underway. I mean, I can show you now they've, they've, you know, there's a, there's a, uh, a substation outside of London.