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Aubrey Marcus Podcast

Is A Cataclysm Imminent? The Dark Star Theory | Randall Carlson #524

11 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What if the Great Pyramid is 25,000 years old?

0.031 - 20.132 Aubrey Marcus

I've always been a collector since I was a kid. Whether it was sports cards, magic cards, comics, stamps, or coins. And as I've gotten older, I've transitioned to collecting original art. I also believe in precious metals as one of the safest and most stable stores of wealth.

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20.112 - 49.107 Aubrey Marcus

The impossibly cool thing about my new company Metal Mark as part of the Aubrey Marcus Collective is that it combines both of these things that I love. Fully assayable and recoverable fractional gold notes paired with impossibly beautiful, cool and collectible limited edition art. So if for some reason you don't like the art anymore or the art loses its value, you can always just keep the gold.

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49.087 - 65.982 Aubrey Marcus

if any other class of art loses its value all you are left with is paper or in the case of nfts pixels and if you are just starting and collecting gold instead of having to drop twenty seven hundred dollars on a coin like this you can get in for less than a benjamin

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75.26 - 77.826 Randall Carlson

Randall, we finally meet.

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78.587 - 78.988 Aubrey Marcus

Here we are.

79.008 - 84.56 Randall Carlson

Yeah, it's great. I've been looking forward to this now for, well, more than weeks, months, actually.

85.342 - 102.549 Aubrey Marcus

And I've been looking forward to it for decades since I first saw you and Graham Hancock go explode my mind on the Joe Rogan podcast about... Where the flood came from, that it was real, and then what actually happened beforehand. So many people know this story now.

Chapter 2: How does Randall Carlson explain the Younger Dryas impact theory?

102.629 - 124.588 Aubrey Marcus

It's kind of well documented thanks to the work that you've done and Graham's done and Joe's platform. But just to give people the shortest synopsis possible about that thing that you kind of exploded into mainstream culture about the Greenland ice sheets and what you think happened that ended the epoch of the Atlantean era.

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124.568 - 150.599 Randall Carlson

Oh, wow. Okay. What a great loaded question, but exactly the kind of thing I love to dive into. I got interested in the ice ages growing up in Minnesota many decades ago because where we lived was at the margin of what is called the superior lobe of the great Laurentide ice sheet. In a minute, I could pull up a graph and we could see exactly what I'm talking about in terms of a map.

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But right where I grew up was at the margin. Now, at that margin, the ice sheet expanded and it contracted. And it created a very unique landscape that was partially created by the glaciers and also partially created by the melting of the glaciers at the end of the Ice Age. So we had property on the lake, and I can remember my dad showing me a book

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I was probably seven or eight years old, and there was a picture in there. I think, as I remember, it wasn't obviously a photograph, but it was a sketch or something showing what it would have looked like during the Ice Age. And I thought, wow, you mean there was thousands of feet of ice here? And the answer was yes, but...

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Chapter 3: What evidence supports the theory of civilization-ending floods?

192.187 - 217.313 Randall Carlson

It was because of the ebb and the flow of the glaciers there that it sculpted this landscape. So I was brought up in that landscape, and all the effects of the Great Ice Age were all around me. The lake that we lived on was basically a meltwater puddle left over from the recession of the gigantic ice lobe. It was a lobe. If you look at a map, you can see Lake Superior on there.

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217.353 - 241.853 Randall Carlson

Lake Superior was... was one of the major lobes of what is called the Laurentide Ice Sheet. There was two great ice sheets over North America, separate from Greenland. Greenland was kind of its own ice sheet, but the Laurentide was about the size of the ice sheet that now covers the South Pole. Its center was up by Hudson Bay, and it reached all the way to the flanks of the

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Rocky Mountains in Western Canada. Then over Rocky Mountains in Western Canada, you had a secondary ice sheet called the Cordieran. The Cordieran then reached from like Northern Idaho and Washington all the way up to Alaska. It was about the size of the Greenland ice sheet today. So you had basically two separate ice sheets in North America, Laurentide.

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Chapter 4: Why were ancient cultures obsessed with tracking the heavens?

265.116 - 274.367 Aubrey Marcus

And then what caused, I mean, just so people understand, What caused the Ice Age and these ice sheets to form? What was the catalyst for that?

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274.747 - 279.794 Randall Carlson

See, you've just asked one of the fundamental unresolved mysteries, unanswered questions.

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279.894 - 286.623 Aubrey Marcus

Well, that's why I asked you, Randall. You're supposed to resolve unresolved mysteries. This is your role here, sir.

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286.663 - 308.83 Randall Carlson

I'll do my best. There are many theories as to what happened, and a lot of the older theories that were pretty much accepted. have had to be abandoned or drastically modified because of the time scale involved. If we go back to like when I was a kid, we're talking 50s and 60s, the idea was that it took

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309.603 - 334.948 Randall Carlson

tens of thousands of years, probably more like 100,000 years for the ice to appear, to grow, and then to disappear. And it's based upon what are called the Milankovitch forces because the relationship between the earth and the sun is constantly undergoing these subtle changes. For example, the earth's orbit around the sun is elliptical. It's not circular.

Chapter 5: What historical climate patterns does Randall Carlson discuss?

335.028 - 352.691 Randall Carlson

So sometimes the earth is farther away from the sun and sometimes it's closer to the sun. You know, the average is about 93 million, but sometimes it's more than 94 million. Sometimes it's closer to 92 million. Also, the tilt of the Earth's axis changes by several degrees.

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353.792 - 375.266 Randall Carlson

So you have changes in what's called the eccentricity of the orbit, and you have changes in the inclination of the Earth's orbit. And another factor, there's actually three factors that interact. So sometimes... the planet will be receiving more solar radiation because of these changing geometries, other times less.

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So it was believed that these forces called, after Malutin Milankovitch was his name, he was a mathematician who calculated all of this. So for quite a while, this was a satisfactory explanation. These changes in the orbital geometry between Earth and Sun was what was responsible for the Earth sometimes cooling, and then the ice would grow, and then warming.

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397.423 - 409.916 Randall Carlson

The problem was is that the rates of change we now know are way too fast for those forces. They play out over 100,000 years, 40,000 to 100,000 years.

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Chapter 6: How does the Medieval Warm Period relate to modern climate narratives?

410.397 - 438.143 Randall Carlson

So in the early 50s, Willard Libby invented radiocarbon dating, which could be used to identify how long something that had carbon in it, radioactive carbon, which is carbon-14, how long it had been in existence. Because when a plant or any living thing grows and interacts with the environment and the atmosphere, it takes on the amount of carbon that's in the atmosphere.

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438.123 - 463.994 Randall Carlson

What then happens is when the plant or the animal or the person, whatever it is, the organic thing dies, it stops bringing in that carbon. Carbon has a half-life that's well-known, and what happens is that the radioactive portion of the carbon begins to decay, and by looking at the ratio of carbon-12 to carbon-14, you can tell how long something has been since it died. Well, here was the problem.

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By the early 70s, enough data had come in to show that, for example, the disappearance of the ice was a hell of a lot faster than anybody had imagined. And it was a lot closer in our own time. Rather than being 50 to 100,000 years, it was less than 10,000 years.

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Now, on the other end of the spectrum, what happened, it was assumed that this ice mass over North America was relatively stable over 80 to 100,000 years. And what radiocarbon revealed was that, wait a second, up near the shores near Hudson Bay, which would have been the center of the Great Ice Sheet, there were trees, there were forests growing 40,000 years ago.

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So that did not square with the older, extended, longer, gradualistic models. And at that point, there was a couple of conferences held in the early 1970s called, and they referred in the published papers about the proceedings of these conferences, they referred to the energy paradox. Because what they realized was that, okay, it takes X amount of energy to melt a

Chapter 7: What implications does Randall Carlson suggest for future climate change?

539.069 - 562.082 Randall Carlson

y amount of ice so if you had a let's say the ice complex over north america was about six million cubic miles of ice it's a hell of a lot of ice now just as a visualization try to imagine you're standing there and you're looking at an ice cube and that ice cube is a mile high a mile wide and a mile deep Now, what would happen if you melted that?

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How long would it take to melt that if you just set it out? Well, it's going to take a pretty good while to melt, particularly if it's in a northern climate. Like where I grew up in Minnesota, yeah, we got four or five months in the year where things are going to melt, and then winter comes and the melting stops, right? So we're up there.

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579.564 - 589.697 Randall Carlson

We're in Canada, where now you have a long winter, a long cold winter, relatively short summer. But the realization dawned on the researchers that –

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590.116 - 617.153 Randall Carlson

If there were forests growing there 40,000 years ago, and the ice was gone basically by 8 to 10,000 years, we're now faced with this problem of we're going from an interglacial, probably not a whole lot different than now, to a full-blown glacial, and then that's gone, and that whole cycle is now taking place in, say, 25 or 30,000 years instead of 100,000 years.

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What this did was led to the energy paradox. The energy paradox said that you've got to have X amount of energy. Like how much heat energy would it take to melt that one cubic mile of ice? Requires energy, requires heat, and that's in the form of energy. Well, then what they did was they looked at the available energy around the earth in present day. And what dawned on them is that

Chapter 8: What are the mysterious missing years of Jesus according to Randall?

647.677 - 670.319 Randall Carlson

If you look at where the greatest amount of heat energy would be available today to melt that ice, it would either be like sort of the subtropical deserts like the Sahara or probably where you're at. You're in Austin, right? Yeah, so if you go out to the western desert, say the Mojave Desert, how much energy do you have there?

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The other place would be tropical oceans and how much energy you have there available. And in both cases, you had roughly the same amount of heat energy, thermal energy available. What they realized was that even in the most extreme circumstances, it would take three times longer than what we now know today. the time span in which the ice disappeared.

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In other words, if we could move that entire ice mass to the tropical ocean, how long would it take to disappear? Three times as long as the ice actually did disappear. And this is over a northern climate, hence the energy paradox. And the first conference was in 73. The second one, the follow-up, was in 75. They hoped to resolve the problem. They didn't.

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They said, there's an error in the data somewhere. We'll put it on the shelf, and we'll get back to it.

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721.522 - 746.253 Aubrey Marcus

I mean, I think that's where your theory is so elegant and explanatory for the melting of the ice, which, if I understand it correctly, was an asteroid that broke up creating flashpoint friction heat in the atmosphere, ionosphere, and then created this flashpoint effect, which then created the flood that actually melted it.

746.273 - 766.214 Randall Carlson

Yeah, you're very close, actually, to what the scenario— So I began looking at, you know, I encountered those papers in the 70s, probably a number of years after they were first published, and that just intrigued me to no end. Like, okay, here's a mystery. How did this happen so fast, both the onset of the Ice Age and the end of the Ice Age?

766.234 - 789.598 Randall Carlson

So by the time I would say one of the things that sort of triggered my interest in this was – to my next level thinking on it was in the early 1980s when it first got proposed that the dinosaur extinction was triggered by an asteroid impact, which you're probably well aware of, you know, that was for sure posed. It was a very controversial, uh,

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proposition back in 1980, a lot of resistance to it, but it took about a decade. And it was the discovery of the impact crater in the Yucatan that finally shifted the balance of scientific opinion to accepting it. But it was probably a combination of the impact. Actually, we could go a little further than that. There was probably a cluster of impacts.

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Around that time so that the station wasn't one fell swoop. It may have been just like in a mixed martial arts fight, you know, somebody gets slugged, but they don't go down. But, um, over a period of time, you know, they wear out and they, they get knocked out, you know, they might not get knocked out in the first round, but they get.

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