Randall Kennedy

It has a consequence on how they act towards other people.

It has a consequence on how they vote.

It has a consequence.

And, you know, that's something.

Are there other things?

Yeah.

And, you know, in my book, I go through various...

I think that there is a certain sort of denialism that has accompanied the affirmative action debate.

So because black people like myself want to avoid

the stigmatizing burden of affirmative action, there's some people who, to deal with that, have said, oh, actually, there is no difference between, you know, the beneficiaries of affirmative action and the other kids.

There is no difference.

If the affirmative action kids got, let's say, a 500%

and the other kid's got a 750, that doesn't make any difference.

That's just BS.

You know, the only reason the kid who, you know, the 550 kid didn't get 750 is because the test asks all sorts of, you know, biased, culturally biased things like, you know, what is a yacht?

Well, sorry.

Yes, there is a difference.

There's a 200 point difference.

Does the difference matter?

Yes, the difference matters.