Randip Janda

I think with Rutherford, the type of individual he is, he's a very hands-on individual.

So there does have to be a bit of a clean break in the sense that you're saying, I'm there if you need me.

I'll be an alternate governor.

If you need me to attend board of governors meetings, I have experience.

I can certainly play that role.

But if this is going to be a clean break, or if you want to call it regime change,

Which I do.

Yeah, which, yeah, which I think you have to, right?

For any of us that, you know, went to university, he's basically moving into the professor emeritus role, which is like, I'm here, but I'm also going to be in Cabo for six months of the year.

Okay, that's well above my...

So you went to law school.

I got a simple bachelor's.

I didn't even learn that one.

That was clearly for the extra money you paid later on for law school.

But that's what Rutherford is essentially doing.

So I understand it.

I get it.

And from a business perspective, you still want him to keep an eye on things of the practice rink.

Are we doing this right?

You have experience of doing this in multiple locations, most notably in Pittsburgh.