Raul Bilecky

It's tragic, man.

There's just so much history lost.

And so does this stuff wind up in private collections?

Do museums ever get it?

What happens to that stuff?

I don't think museums get it at all.

It's a private thing.

I actually met a – the term is huaquero.

It's a grave robber.

I actually met one in Miraflores in Lima proper at one of the artesanales where they're selling ancient goods.

Well, some of them have real things that they go out and they loot and – I mean that –

This is one of the things I've been thinking about like for the future, like what can be done about this because the government – nobody from the government is going out there.

And so these things end up in private collections, textiles, humans, pottery, things that you would see in museums.

It's just nobody from that official –

administration is taking the trip to go out there and preserve these things.

It seems like just the ancient civilization of Peru is a massive mystery.

It seems like there are a lot of uncovered stories in that area.

Peru is a hot spot.

And it doesn't seem like there's an incredible amount of research being done other than by independent people.

I mean, so...