Raul Bilecky

I don't see it not happening.

Eventually.

Right.

Especially with crazy people.

Someone's got the courage to just sail out there and hope you have enough water on you.

Or you're fishing and... You get stuck.

You get stuck and there's a storm and it's like whoop.

Right.

And you can never make it back.

Right.

But I think that's happened in multiple places.

I don't think that civilization is...

born and created without a that sense of exploration but also that that natural ingenuity i mean storms happen you see a log floating in the ocean well i can use that to go get catch more fish yeah all of a sudden you're seafaring boy so it just when you see stuff like this that's that old that's 15 000 years old you go okay well this is all that's left

from 15,000 years ago.

What's left from 30,000 years ago?

Because it's like double that, right?

Right now, you look at 15, there's almost nothing.

It's like, God, it's so little, but you get it.

But if you went another 15 before that, are we talking, what is that?

And that's why I'm like, with the stuff Biondi is doing, with the SAR tech, I'm just hoping that