Ray D'Arcy

They said, well, why don't you cut to the chase?

Why don't you just know that at some stage you're going to do a deal?

Because these things don't last forever.

They're going to be resolved in some way, shape or form at some stage.

So why don't you cut to that point?

And I suppose people would argue that you have to show how serious you are.

And that's the nature of it.

But then there should be an adult in it, shouldn't there?

Who is the adult in this?

Well, you would argue that the government should be the adult in this.

They've been here before.

They should know that eventually this is going to be sorted out, get themselves into a room, get together some sort of a deal and get to the protesters as quickly as possible and prevent a whole week of upset on our roads.

disrupting business and people's appointments, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, as Ewell Brenner said in The King and I. Yeah.

Now today, Colman Octor's here.

And Coman's great.

He's a psychoanalyst.

He deals with children and adolescents.

And today we talked to him about how parents communicate with their children, what language they use and what language they probably shouldn't use.

And we talked to him about Artemis 2 and the psychology of being stuck with four people in a confined space.

under stress.