Ray Dalio

Okay.

And it comes from people having a need to create a structure and a way of being.

Well, maybe what we're doing.

I mean, I think they have to worry at two levels.

First, enough of us worry that we vote for it or we use our voting and our others to say, let's vote on together and compromise and smart people doing these kinds of things.

And that's worrying about the society as a whole.

And then there's worrying of, as an individual, if they don't do those things, how do I take care of myself?

Those are the two types of worries or two types of impacts you can have, right?

So I think they need to think of both of those.

I know that.

I know a bit about Lincoln.

I wouldn't call myself an expert, and I know that about him.

And yeah, and I think that's really, really great, yeah.

First of all, you explain to people and you understand yourself how important thoughtful disagreement is, so you remove it, you minimize it from being something that people view as a fight and get upset about.

You have to change the attitude about disagreement so that if you're in disagreement, then one of you is probably wrong.

How do you know the wrong person isn't you?

And then also, you still have to resolve the disagreement in some way.

And so you have to have in place, first of all, an understanding and an intellectualization of that so you don't get emotionally carried away in thinking, because I disagree, that's equivalent to a fight.

OK, so you have to change that psychology.

And then once you do that, then you have to have protocols in place for doing that.