Ray Daniels

And his catalog is so much better than everything that's out today.

But he did that because he knew that's what it took to be in the market.

And the market doesn't call for that.

But the goal is the exact same.

Jeezy and Hov was trying to get rich.

That's what he's trying to do.

Is it just in our culture though?

Because I don't think this happens outside of hip hop and outside of... You know, I think it's... You think people are in for the love of stocks?

I think it's our culture because our culture is the poorest, right?

Our culture came from poor people not having anything, saying, let's create something.

So I think that hip hop is our extract.

Like, it's how we can make money.

And like, dog, my mother would be driving school buses right now for $2,500 a month if it wasn't for hip hop.

If it wasn't for her son having an opportunity at hip hop to retire her in 2012.

So to me, hip hop is our savior, but we're, we're allowing it to be a joke.

And that's my issue where it's like, I don't mind a jokey artist, but can we get some real, but you can't get real if you don't have real execs in the seats.

And these people can't tell you.

And there's a few like,

Sycamore, Larry Jackson, Dash over at Geffen.

There's a few that are really good.