Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: What insights does Ray Daniels share about the music industry?
And I'm like, why the fuck do you want to talk to Gary Vee? What the fuck does he, you think he knows more than me? And he was like, no, and I mean, for me, it was just, it was interesting because, you know, when the art, you get to that point in your career where someone says, yo, I want to work with Timbaland. I'm like, FaceTime, Timbaland, my nigga. I work with Jermaine.
You get those relationships. You take pride in that. So I'm like, who you want to work with? And you say a name. I'm like, what? Like, that's what you want to do? So you start understanding, like, the world is different. You'd rather talk to Gary Vee. And then that made me say, Imagine if Gary Vee was the president of a label, a major. Every young artist would want to sign to him.
So I was like, I'm going to be Gary Vee. I'm going to be the dude that gives all the information away. And yes, I can get paid for a lot of this, but the... 95% is going to be bullshit. But that 5%, that listen, that's like, I heard you. Like me with Dame. When I see Dame and your bigs, I'm like, bro, y'all raised me. When I talk, I want y'all to be proud of me.
Like when I said something Dame called and cursed me out, I was like, nope. I'm like, this is... This is Dame Dash yelling at me through FaceTime. Nigga, like, I made it in life. Like, I'm family with these niggas now. So I just wanted to be accepted by them. But these new guys, they don't care what y'all think. They don't care what I think.
They're empowered by someone who's saying, fuck what they think. Do what you want. And that's why the game is tough. But I think the same way artists now have to pivot to the times as far as being personalities and being more than just a musical artist. Yes.
Even what Lior put out with the pivot with YouTube and the letter he put out the other day, like artists, I hate to say it, guys, you have to be more than just this now. Different time. I think executives have to be that. as well, like Justice from LVRN. I've been telling him, go start a podcast. You have the craziest personality ever and you actually know what the fuck you're talking about.
Imagine a Shark Tank if it was Irv Dane Biggs in that regard, where Mr. Wonderful is the face of every product that he puts out. Mark Cuban is that as well. I think... there's an opportunity right now for execs to have that. It's just execs are super corny now. Yeah. So they don't really exist.
But if you get someone like a Sycamore that could be on Mike all the time and actually be the face of everyone that he signed. Yeah. Now we're having a different conversation because Sycamore is really an A&R. Sycamore really cares about this. Yeah. Like I remember working with Syk when he came to Epic and I was, he was doing Travis and Sycamore,
He was he was he would say something and it would be like it was a slam dunk, but it was so small. Like I got a house. Travis going to work. Metro's coming and we're going to go. Let's go. And, you know, that's not exciting. Normally, normally it's like, I don't care. Tell me what happened after you made the hit.
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Chapter 3: How does Ray Daniels view the current state of talent in the music industry?
We're going to do the battle. Drake had nothing to gain from the Kendrick battle. Let's be honest. Nothing. No, when you're the top, you can only lose. Nigga, when you're the top, all I can do is lose. Why are we doing this again? No, but you can't win for losing to that situation. Because I'd sit on this couch. If Drake ducked the like that smoke, I'd be on this couch saying, yo.
But the like that smoke came from the first person shooter, right? It was a response to him. I think what happened with Drake was, this is what I think happened. I'm going to tell you what I think happened from the inside. Well, first person shooter, Drake didn't. I don't have no idea. But they have a long history of back and forth.
I think that what happened with Drake was that none of his peers could beat him. They knew they couldn't. And it was like, and the nigga could do anything he wants. He can do Rick Ross type music. He can do Travis type music. He can do, he can do a K-pop song if he wants. He can do whatever he wants because he's from Canada. And I think his peers got a little frustrated with that.
So I think they've been trying to bait him. And you know, he probably knocked off everybody, girl. Right? So, you know, you really want to get him. And it's like, Ross can't beat him one-on-one. It's like, we in jail, bro. Like, who can beat this nigga? Mm-hmm. And I think the only person alive that can beat Drake in a battle was the only person he battled.
There's not another human that could touch him. Nowhere close. But you went against the one nigga you shouldn't have. And then you took the bait. So when he's doing the slave shit, he's leveraging the half. He's leveraging the half Jew part. That was your superpower. Now the culture's looking at you like, you don't know no better? Hold on, he don't know better.
Bro, you went into, dog, Kendrick comes from Compton, my nigga. They burpees, these niggas is burpees, lifting weights at five in they backyard. They're three hours behind us, bro. Like, whatever time it is right now, dog, it's 4.30 right now. It's 1.30 there. That's a whole difference. The only thing that's funny about that, I know mad niggas in Compton that don't do burpees.
Niggas be doing the pushups and shit. And I'm like, don't battle him, y'all. Don't battle that guy. Like, his friends want to get you. Like, I know 2T. I know these guys. I've been around these guys. These guys are guys you don't want to play with. Drake is Canadian, bro. Be Canadian. Another thing I would have said... They never have to. He's Canadian. Hear me out. Hear me out.
Let me tell you what I mean. Here's what I'm saying. Kendrick has to come to Toronto one time and that's on tour. Drake, you're in LA a hundred times a year. So I'm just saying like when one of y'all get off the train or get off the plane, you never know if it's a TSA motherfucker that's cool with somebody from top. It's like, you just never know. So I'm like, don't have that fight.
If Cole comes in, do it. What if Cole lined him up? What if he told him, I just thought about it. Damn, what if Cole lined him up? I've been saying that for a year and a half and they're killing me. If Cole joins the battle, it doesn't go that bad for Drake. Because it's three people fighting each other. I know the definition of lining someone up and I don't think that was the case.
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Chapter 4: What are the dynamics between Drake, Kendrick, and J. Cole?
Drake and Cole are like, and then when it got to that point, Cole was like, I'm not you, Drake. Cause Drake doesn't get enough credit for going after anyone that says a word about him. I give him more credit, which a lot of rappers, Hov included. You just give a little subliminal here. Drake will rap at you right away, no matter who you are.
But that's what Ray is saying.
I don't understand. Cole and Drake are similar humans where Kendrick doesn't need to be part of it. But my thing is this, is the game is the game. And when you end the game and you're rich as Drake, that means you've taken a lot of losses, but you've taken way more wins. to be as rich and successful as Drake. My whole thing is that's a loss we don't have.
If that's a loss that we focus on, the battle was two years ago. We still talking about it because of the lawsuit. If the lawsuit went away, he would drop music. It would have been over. Him and Kendrick would have hugged on stage in Toronto. It would have been over.
Chapter 5: How does LaRussell handle criticism in the music industry?
And I don't think it's because of the lawsuit. I don't think it's that.
I think that that was such a big moment that we're going to be talking about that Forever. You can't be two years removed from the biggest moment in rap history and not talk about it.
Unless you're the biggest artist in history of rap.
Now, do you feel like, music-wise, because we've gotten some music this year, some good albums, some good music, but there's clearly a gap. There's clearly, and we say there's no, who are the superstars?
Yeah.
Right? So, do you feel like...
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Chapter 6: What impact does Drake have on emerging artists?
there is clearly a wide gap missing when there's no Drake album music to really place. Bro, we need him. A lot of people don't feel like that. No, if they don't feel like that, they're not paying attention to the economy. Like, Drake made artists that we might not have taken as serious feel more serious. Like, when Drake does a record with Block Boy JB, like, you look at him differently.
Like, Drake co-signed him. Like, he got a hit, but Drake co-signed him. So it's like, you need him because a Drake cosign is worth three years of a career. And if Drake just cosigns you, that's three years of getting money, right? Because of that. So I think we need him. I just wish he didn't take it so personal.
Like, if I was you, I would have took it personal, but I would have never let them know. I would have took Lucien's job. Let me tell you something. When Michael Jackson was having problems with Tommy Mottola, and he was like, they not going, oh, y'all not going, oh, y'all not going to treat me like I'm Michael Jackson.
Chapter 7: How does the conversation end regarding LaRussell's career choices?
He flew to Japan. met with the Japanese family that owns Sony and got Tommy Mottola fired that way from the dinner table. This motherfucker racist. This motherfucker racist. He got to go. They fired him. So imagine if you was Drake and you flew them. You don't think the owners of Universal, the Vendee, his daughter probably is obsessed with Drake. Would love to see that.
Probably get my hand job under the table while he's talking to the dad and then say, yo, bro, I don't like what they did. He would have got way more from it. But my thing was, you're acting like a spoiled child when you are a spoiled child. Don't act spoiled when you are spoiled. But why spoiled? Because you've always won.
The reason why he's acting like this is because this is his first time he took a real genuine loss. But he's always won because he was better than that. That's my point. I agree with you. But the one time you don't win. You're saying spoiled like they gave it to him. No, you're right. I think Drake is incredible. He was in my top three until the lawsuit. That took him out? Yeah. To me, because...
Like, bro, like, y'all don't know a lot about me, but, like, the music industry, like, they did me dirty in 2020. They basically sent me to die. And I could have sued and probably got crazy money, but I know they would have never respected me because they would have thought, you need to sue to win. Nigga, I'm going to put a camera on me. That's a hip-hop. I'm going to come back.
That's the rest of the world suit. Like, what are we talking about? But if we're in hip-hop, you have to play by the rules or don't. And right now, Drake is not playing by the rules of hip hop because he's suing. And I'm not comparing this to the Drake thing. If you're not going to play by the rules, then play by other rules.
All the hip hop artists that we love and respect have sued people before. I'm not saying in a rap battle. I want to make that clear. But let's not act like Jay-Z's not sued somebody before. 50 Cent's not sued. Like that... But I think when Jay-Z sues somebody, everybody feels like it's valid.
I think this is the first time when no one feels this lawsuit is valid except for Drake Stans and his friends and him. I think that the lawsuit is dumb. It's not going to work. It goes away. Perception-wise, I'm sure. My thing is... Drake is more powerful than Lucian Grange. I agree. Let me make this known. By the way, if Drake don't notice, he need to notice.
He is way more powerful than Lucian Grange ever will be because Lucian only controls a back office. I think he knows that, which is why he sued. I wouldn't have sued. I would have sat at the table.
I get what you're saying, but I think that's why he sued.
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