Ray Gutierrez
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Oh, yeah.
And I learned that from Rudy.
Wherever he is.
And then once you get to be friends with them, if they have some piece of equipment that you don't have, you can... The friendly rivalry begins.
You use the tools that you can.
My songwriting partner and I sometimes will write a song and, well, what does this sound like?
Is this genre?
No, then you can help each other.
What does it sound like in this style?
Absolutely.
Okay, well, that's cool.
The friendly rivalry.
And it'll give me ideas.
So, yeah, you can run from it screaming or you can utilize it as a tool just like anything else.
I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
Do you work with a lot of, let's say, YouTube creators?
I see some of their side hustles.
Yes, sir.
Recording software is a tool.