Ray Gutierrez

Germany, correct.

And she sold off that company.

I'd be okay with that.

I'd be perfectly fine.

So I'm kind of curious if you all work together or rubbed elbows because you're all in the same ballpark.

That's okay with me.

What is your definition of what the future of music is like to you?

Yeah.

No, I mean, it's amazing.

Is it all, it's got to come from the soul?

It's cool in our industry.

Or maybe this little robot that has a link to my soul can help out.

We also really network and know each other.

And it turns out it's been a fun 32 years in business because we go to shows and we know a lot of people that sell to us and then a lot of people that have shops just like us.

Like, what is your perception of the reality of future of music and production?

The reality is AI is already here.

If you're not taking advantage of it in some way.

And Jeff also taught me in the industry not to think of our other companies that are just like us in the same city as competition, but they're friends.

You're doing yourself a disservice.

I use ChatGBT to help me with ad copy.