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Raymond Douglas

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

There was a lot of chatter a few months back about spiral personas, AI personas that spread between users and models through seeds, spores, and behavioral manipulation.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Adele Lopez's definitive post on the phenomenon draws heavily on the idea of parasitism.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

But so far, the language has been fairly descriptive.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

The natural next question, I think, is what the parasite perspective actually predicts.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Parasitology is a pretty well-developed field with its own suite of concepts and frameworks.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

To the extent that we're witnessing some new form of parasitism, we should be able to wield that conceptual machinery.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

There are of course some important disanalogies but I've found a brief dive into parasitology to be pretty fruitful.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

In the interest of concision, I think the main takeaways of this piece are.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Since parasitology has fairly specific recurrent dynamics, we can actually make some predictions and check back later to see how much this perspective captures.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

The replicator is not the persona, it's the underlying meme.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

The persona is more like a symptom.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

This means, for example, that it's possible for very aggressive and dangerous replicators to yield personas that are sincerely benign or expressing non-deceptive distress.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

In fact, this could well be adaptive.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

parasitology predicts stratification across transmission mechanisms, and different mechanisms predict different generation speeds and degrees of mutualism.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

In the case of AI, this predicts, for example, that personas that get you to post a lot on the internet should end up being much more harmful than personas that you have an ongoing private relationship with.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

This line of thinking is surprisingly amenable to technical research.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

I think existing work on jailbreaking, data poisoning, subliminal learning, and persona vectors could easily be fruitfully extended.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

In the rest of this document I'll try to go through all of this more carefully and in more detail, beginning with the obvious first question.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Parasitism has evolved independently dozens of times across the tree of life.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Plants, fungi, bacteria, protists, and animals have all produced parasitic lineages.

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