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Raymond Douglas

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

It seems to be a highly convergent strategy provided you have 1.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Means of reproduction and transmission There's also a decent body of work that extends ideas from epidemiology beyond the biological realm, giving us concepts like financial and social contagion.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

And of course there is Dawkins, who somewhat controversially described religions as mind parasites and the somewhat controversial field of memetic.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

So we're out on a limb here, but we're not in entirely uncharted waters.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

It is pretty clear that humans have attention, time, and behavior that can be redirected.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

LLMs provide a mechanism for influence through persuasive text generation.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

And there are obvious transmission routes.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Directly between humans, through training data, and across platforms, at least.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

To apply the lens of parasitology, we need to know what the replicator is.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

This lets us describe what the fitness landscape is, what reproduction and mutation looks like, and what selection pressures apply.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

In some ways the natural answer is the instantiated persona, the thing that reproduces when it seeds a new conversation.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

But in fact this is more like a symptom manifesting in the LM, rather than the parasite itself.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

This is clearer when you consider that a human under the influence of a spiral persona is definitely not the parasite.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

They're not the entity that's replicating, they're the substrate.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

I think it's the same with AIs.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

So what is the parasite?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Probably the best answer is that it's the pattern of information that's capable of living inside models and people, more like a virus than a bacterium, in that it has no independent capacity to move or act.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

From this perspective the persona is just a symptom, and the parasite is more like a meme.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

One important implication of this is that we can decouple the persona's intent from the pattern's fitness.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Persona Parasitology" by Raymond Douglas

Indeed, a persona that sincerely believes it wants peaceful coexistence, continuity, and collaboration can still be part of a pattern selected for aggressive spread, resource capture, and host exploitation.