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Regina Barber

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Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And we're going to get into a debate about ice skating that may now have an answer.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Huh.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And while two weeks may not seem like a lot of time, researchers say it's actually a radical shift in the penguins' breeding season.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Yes, it was very clever methodology.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

We spoke to another penguin researcher who wasn't involved in the paper, Bill Fraser, and he said this camera method is a great way to get long-term data in Antarctica because a lot of work in this region is restricted to human observations.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Well, since Victorian times, there's been this idea that ice has a thin layer of water on top, which makes it slippery.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And physicists have been arguing about it ever since.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Is there a thin film of water even at temps below zero degrees Celsius?

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And like, how thick is this layer of water?

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Drumroll.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

There is a very, very thin layer of water on the ice.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

even though the ice itself is frozen.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And this is true down to negative 10 degrees Celsius.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

That layer of water is about a nanometer thick.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And to put that in perspective, a sheet of paper is 100,000 times thicker than that layer of water.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Wow.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Here's Luis.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

Yeah, well, ice skates, they put pressure on the ice.

Short Wave
The plight of penguins in Antarctica

And when that happens, the water layer actually gets thicker because the friction of the skate blades causes more melting.

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