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Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

As a staff writer for The Atlantic, Katie wrote an article on the topic.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

She mentions that mostly East Asian people have this reaction, hence the name.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

And aldehydes in the body don't just come from alcohol.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

They also build up naturally as part of your metabolism.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

So why would evolution make it so that some people, a pretty sizable amount, can't properly break down aldehydes?

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

Today on the show, Katie shares how this biological process goes haywire and one theory as to why it might have been a powerful tool for some of our ancestors to survive disease.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to ShoreWave from NPR.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

Okay, Katie, so Asian glow affects half a billion people, including you and me, and it's because of a genetic mutation we both have, right?

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Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

What are aldehydes?

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

Yeah.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

And so everyone has two copies of a gene, right?

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Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

Like one from each parent.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

We just talked about that.

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Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

What would happen if you had two copies of this genetic mutation and you're not processing this alcohol at all?

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Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

But then when you're drinking, it's like – Right, right, right.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

And so like how does the body get rid of these aldehydes if there is a buildup?

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Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

And in your article, you write that by one line of evolutionary logic, I and other sufferers of so-called alcohol flush shouldn't exist.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

What's your reasoning there?

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, let's swing positive, like your article does.

Short Wave
Drinking Turns Some Red With Asian Glow—And May Fight Tuberculosis

So recently an NYU microbiologist— —Haren Darwin.