Renata Wiles

having a startup would be and what building a tech company would you know what was involved in it and even things like kind of you know contracts and like legal stuff and taxes and like structuring a company and you know a shareholder and like learning all the different roles director and like learning all the different roles of a company and things like I just had no business background and so everything was

was new to me I don't know who there's like a famous quote or who said it but it's like if you're not embarrassed by your first product then you launch too late I think that's the quote and I think yeah and I think that that's so true it's like you do just need to get it out into the world don't try and wait until it's perfect because if I look at Rome now it's so much better than even when we first launched the app but and it will continue to get better we'll just continue to improve it and things but if you wait until it's perfect you'll never launch you'll never start

And if you wait until you know everything, you'll never start.

Just, you know, learn as you go.

It's like build the plane while you're flying.

Just put it out into the world and then just like go from there.

You like a challenge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, apparently.

I don't know.

I think you kind of maybe need to be a little bit of crazy to start a business.

Yeah, totally.

It's kind of good not to know.

For me, my timeline was that I had been building this map, the Google map, while I was working part time.

So I'd gone back to work.

We decided we have another baby.

So, you know, I got pregnant.

Started building Roam, working with a developer.

And by the time that I was due with my baby, I kind of said to my developer, like, look, I would like to, you know, I'd like to launch this before I have a baby.

Yeah, yeah.

And so I organized a launch party and I was like, look,