Reuben Williams

And I said to him, you won't see me for a very long time while you hold the beliefs that you hold.

Wow.

I said to him, don't come to my birthday.

Don't come to Christmas.

Don't come to the court case.

If it takes 20 years, I'll see you in 20 years.

And I said very explicitly to him, I was like, the thing that I'm most upset about is less about the George Pell stuff, but more about the fact that when you dismiss the believability of victims, you dismiss your own son.

Like he made me feel invalid and invisible that night.

And look, my dad is not a bad man.

He's a very proud, stubborn, faithful man who grew up in a time that never taught him how to say, I don't know.

but he loves his son and and that was enough for him to change not not quickly and not overnight not without any sort of hard work but he changed and that meant that by the time the uh the verdict for the magistrate's court trial came around when the verdict was announced he was the first person to to call me and he was ugly crying through the phone and just said i'm so proud of you

So, yeah, we're still in touch and I'm back in the family chat.

No.

No.

I was obviously very upset, but...

like the truth is a truth and it is so black and white in, in my mind.

Yeah.

And, um, and I was always determined to, to go through with it, going back to the, you know, the story of the woman and what might happen if I didn't go through with it.

So, um,

There are certainly times where you have doubts, but there was never a point where I thought I'm going to back out of this.