Rex Ryan

So that sort of stuck with me for the longest time.

And then fast forward to around that time, I was trying to write plays about my old mates.

That's what I wanted.

And I was working on that.

And that would have taken in Summer Hill and places like this.

Then the feud happened and I thought, how can this happen in Dublin?

And then it was even more resonant with me because it was happening to people that I had known or known of.

back in the day not being friends with but I'd been I'd seen these people so you know we were chatting a little bit about Goodfellas earlier we all watch Goodfellas Breaking Bad we love The Godfather and that it took the longest time but that feud rammed home to me that when a bullet goes through your head that's real and it's not sexy and it's a tragedy and that that's what touched me and that was the impetus to to find Gerard

and start the process of trying to tell the story, that story.

Yeah.

I went about some investigating about how to get on to him.

Obviously, very difficult when someone's in prison.

I had the idea in my head that I thought...

I could play him.

I was confident I had enough experience on stage and character acting, I suppose, that I thought I could play him.

I didn't think it'd be too much of a leap.

What I thought would be difficult was getting Gerard to agree to meet me, let me do research, let me talk to him, and then let me write a play that was quite challenging to him.

That was the biggest challenge for me.

So I went about finding ways to get a Zoom into the... Presumably through personal contacts and... All of that, yeah.

So it's quite a bizarre thing that happens.