Rhianna Moore

Is that a sentiment you'd agree with?

So this was something that you personally had to face.

How distressing was that prospect for you?

So, Paula, this was something that in the course of counselling had come up for you.

You shared with that counsellor and it was then presented in court as evidence of your, I don't know, your shortcomings as a mother.

If you had known in advance that they might be used, Paula, I assume you would have self-censored yourself.

you know, to a massive degree, had you known.

And you say, you know, counselling, that therapy, that saved your life.

You know, how much value would there have been in therapy where you couldn't talk about these things?

Because you knew in advance that this might be you, so I'm actually not going to go there.

Yeah.

That's how people feel.

It's probably one or the other.

So what's the message then for policymakers tomorrow with this protest?

What do you want them to hear?

What do you want them to understand?

But let's say, imagine that meeting happened, Paula, and

The minister or any other policymaker was sitting down with you and they said, I hear you, but what we have to balance is your right to confidentiality with the right of somebody to a fair trial.

I don't know.

I imagine that's probably the rationale.