Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And what types of training should they... I mean, what's their mindset like?

And then translate that to action.

I love, Kelly, how you added leisure time activity in that equation.

You mentioned dancing or whatever it is you like to do.

For me, it's tennis.

Because I've had Dr. Ben Levine.

Have you heard of Ben Levine?

I mean, he's a rock star in the exercise physiology world when it comes to cardiovascular health, right?

And his prescription for life from just decades of aggregating data, looking at individuals from

an age range from younger athletes, middle-aged, older, really that is an important part of the equation in addition to the exercise volume and the types of exercise that people are doing.

It's got to be at least an hour a week of leisure time activity in the equation.

You're right.

And you're absolutely right.

Especially, I mean, kids play a lot and we're going to get into kids too, but we're both parents and I'm very interested in that.

But adults don't play enough.

And even adults that are interested in health and fitness and improving the way they age and feeling better, being more mobile, all of that, even those adults oftentimes don't have any sort of leisure time activity.

I mean, and that could be even riding a bike with a group.

Oh, that's leisure time activity.

Oh yeah, 100%.

Yeah.