Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A hundred percent, a hundred percent.

I mean, I think that is, that needs to be done for all the devices.

And, you know, the one to two, it's like, it's worth so much more than that.

Now I'm the kind of person that actually doesn't, I just go off the way I feel.

Like I work out, I do a workout and I like, it's so important for my brain and my mental health and my mood.

So that's kind of what I am seeking when I'm doing my, you know, even my short exercise next.

I do one minute of like air squats and I feel really good after that.

It's just one minute.

I really do.

So that's what I need.

But like you said, some people really, and I know people like this who they like love all this like gamified stuff.

And I'm like, okay, that's more power to you.

That's great.

If that's what it takes and if that's more rewarding and that's getting the dopamine and it's reinforcing the behavior and a lot of people it does, then we need to do it.

It needs to be, we need to be reinforcing that behavior because at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.

Right.

Which I think gets us into this other conversation of, you know,

All out, all intensity or nothing, right?