Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And again, going back to the questionnaire data, because it was questionnaire data too, right?

There needs to be an update, first and foremost.

They need to look at

More actual empirical data that, you know, as measured by accelerometers.

And then from there, it's like, okay, are we looking at how much do we need for either vigorous or moderate and then make the ratio and adjust it there instead of this one to two based on energy expenditure, right?

I mean, I think steps need to go out and it needs to be... I agree.

It needs to be more like the minutes of...

either vigorous or moderate probably mostly vigorous because that's like the easiest i mean you could do you know four minutes of vigorous activity a day and be actually meaningful at least according to the data with the women reducing the you know risk of heart attacks and stuff so um it

But that also reminds me with respect to these guidelines, you know, you had mentioned how in like 2018, the guidelines were updated to they removed the point that exercise had to be in bouts greater than 10 minutes.

So that was at least removed.

But I think that we need to go even a step further.

And it needs to say you can accumulate these, you know, in bouts of one, even as low as one minute.

Right.

Like it can be accumulation of short bouts of exercise.

Like if people read that, it really does like incentivize them to engage in these like short things where they're, again, playing with their puppy or if they're working and they commute to work.

It's like it's really incentivizing them to keep doing that and perhaps even speed up the pace a little bit, right?

Pick up the pace a little bit.

Yeah.

And then the fitness trackers and apps.

I mean, that's another thing, right?