Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I mean, it's sort of mimicking moderate intensity cardiovascular exercise.

So I wanted to get your thoughts on, first of all, using temperature, both hot and then on the opposite end of that would be cold, which causes vasoconstriction.

Combining the two, how you think about using that for...

healing, recovery, and then we can talk about growth hormone too, because I want to bring up something as well.

Yeah, I also love how you talked about your brain and doing the hard things too.

We're also training our brain, right?

Right.

Yeah.

Well, I wanted to bring up growth hormone because, one, I want to get your input on what I'm going to say, but also because there's not a lot of research on this.

There's like –

independent research in one area and in the other, and you kind of have to connect the dots, right?

Which isn't always great, but it's a start.

And so we know that sauna, deliberate heat exposure, does increase growth hormone.

So growth hormone does respond to a stressful type of stress, right?

So you can do that through exercise.

You can do it through deliberate heat exposure.

You can do it through intermittent fasting.

All those things have been shown to increase growth hormone.

And depending on the temperature and duration, you can get a more robust response, right?

So like the longer you do the sauna, the more hot without going above, you know, 200 degree Fahrenheit, you're going to get a more robust response with growth hormone.