Rhonda Patrick

Now, I know you've had Dr. Ashley Mason on your podcast.

She's been on my podcast as well.

We collaborate.

She's awesome.

She's awesome.

And we collaborate on a variety of sauna studies.

She wears a lot of hats.

And her data looking at she's a psychologist by training and she looks at depression and she's looking at depression as an endpoint in terms of these infrared saunas.

And she's looking at core body temperature increases to people.

Their core body temperature is going up by like almost two degrees.

And in that case, I mean, she's got them in infrared sauna for like 85 minutes.

They're in there a long time and they are getting hot.

She'll talk about it.

She's got assistants that are cooling them down on their head because it's a head out infrared sauna.

It's like basically like a bed.

Anyways, that's the whole other area looking at the effects on mental health.

And this actually stems from her mentor, Dr. Charles Raison, who I had on the podcast many years ago.

He did this really phenomenal pilot study looking at, it was a kind of funny, it's called hyperthermia.

So like you're inducing hyperthermia and it's like this funny chamber where it's increasing your core body temperature.

But Ashley's not using that anymore.