Rich Roll

I mean, it is such...

a massive problem and there are so many forces at play that have to be overcome to basically succeed in this mission and yet you persist undaunted.

Share with us the experience of being in these places that have remained untouched for millions of years.

Basically, you've been to places where it's unclear whether another human being has even ever been there before.

And you're just surrounded by just an onslaught of nature.

How does that impact your

sense of humility and your feeling of interconnectedness with everything.

Like this notion that we walk around with in the Western world, in our urban kind of society is we're indoors and nature's outside.

It's something that's separate from us.

And the truth is like we are nature and nature flows through us and we are an integral part of it and we're not separate from it.

But

It's difficult to kind of grok that in the way that we live our lives.

You said to a 1,000-year-old tree, the human lifespan is minuscule.

Yeah, so how does that translate into how you think about your daily life?

Like just having that appreciation and that understanding and that context.

You mentioned Avatar.

The way that you describe these places, and if you watch any of Paul's videos, it comes across beautifully.

Like, it really is Avatar.

Like, especially the canopy aspect of this, which I didn't know a lot about.

Explain what the canopy is, because you mentioned it earlier.