Rich Roll

Help me understand how this became your mission.

What is the origin story of Paul that led you to becoming this activist and this very hopeful but ardent conservationist so devoted to protecting and preserving this part of the world?

That message though, the idea that the elephants might go extinct, that we're wreaking havoc and destroying these pristine places that are rapidly shrinking across the planet is a ubiquitous message.

I wanna dig a little bit deeper into kind of your DNA blueprint because you just kind of came out of the gate wired for this.

Like there is something about you, like you are living your destiny.

Like there's no question in my mind that you're doing exactly

what you came into the world to do.

Like from the get-go, this was your thing.

You knew it as soon as you were like a sentient human being actually.

And it took a little bit to get you there.

But do you think about that?

It's almost like a past life thing.

It's sort of like you came in already knowing like this is gonna be my path.

It just knew.

This is the guy I'm going to hang out with.

Yeah.

Yeah.

As much as you were somebody who kind of came into the world with this sense of purpose and destiny, I think it's important to underscore how difficult it's been.

This is a recurring theme in the book as well.

This took you a long time to get to this place.