Rich Roll

How are you perceived by the mining industry?

I mean, there's so much money at stake with these large industries that, yeah, it's easy to point the finger at the narcos, but wouldn't it be just as easy for some kind of, you know, corporate agenda, you know, corporate way of like taking you off the chessboard here because you're obstructing their goals.

those extractive industries are not organized enough in the wild that i work in yeah my question was is that specific to the region where you are because obviously the amazon is massive yeah there must be areas where it isn't artisanal and it is very kind of like conglomerate driven

Yeah, they get killed, right.

Yeah.

So it's not just narco-terrorism.

It's literally like corporate terrorism.

What's the one thing that you want people to understand about the adventures that you've been on and this particular corner of the world that you think is misunderstood?

You're a master storyteller.

And I think storytelling is really central to all of this.

It's part of the transparency, telling the story of how the dollars are going to work to solve this problem so that the person who is contributing feels emotionally connected to the solution and can see exactly what's happening and how those dollars are

How have all these experiences that you've had, these unique experiences, informed your relationship with spirituality?

Yeah, this sense of separateness disappears when you're locking eyes with Dharma the elephant.

How can people get involved?

Do you have a sense of how much it costs per acre to save this area?

Beautiful, man.

You said, we are all eager to transform, to break free of the chrysalis and enter the arena.

You're squarely in the arena.

The arena is open for business for people who want to enter it.

And maybe the one way you can enter it today is by getting involved.