Rich Roll

We're all victimized to it.

And if there's one thing about addiction, it's that.

willpower isn't going to cut it.

If you're relying on your willpower to solve this problem, you're just going to relapse and you're going to relapse and you're going to get frustrated and you're just going to dig this hole.

And yet, with respect to our smartphones, it's sort of like food addiction.

We kind of need them in order to function in society, which means we're kind of hitting it like a drug every single day.

And despite our best intentions or trying to summon that willpower to put distance between ourselves and the thing, like it's almost, you know, we're doomed in that way.

And yet...

we're shouldered with the responsibility of solving this.

Like, what can you share about your experience with that and what you say to people who are stuck in that loop?

The advice I give people is the same that I give somebody who is a substance addict, which is the first thing you have to do is you have to break the denial.

An addict will find any reason to perpetuate the behavior.

And I think the same holds true with smartphones.

And with addiction, the first thing you have to do is admit that you are powerless over this thing that is controlling your life and that it is making your life unmanageable.

Like this is like right out of like 12 step.

And then once you really grok that and and kind of surrender to the fact that this thing is running your life and no matter what you do, it is in control of you rather than the other way around.

Realize that you can't solve the problem with the same brain that's creating it.

Like you have to ask for help.

It's also delusionary narcissism.

You're not that important.