Rich Roll

Yes, they may have and do have in certain situations a positive impact on performance, but what are the long-term trades that you're making for that?

Like,

What happens if you are young and you decide you want to be on these and you order them through the website and you just start using them for years and years and years and years?

Many of these things are not tested on human beings or we already know what those risks and dangers are.

And we've seen what happens to other athletes who have used them, who have died prematurely or have had serious health considerations later in life.

Well, their whole pitch is

We're actually doing this in a safe context and by taking it out of the shadows and we're providing an on-ramp for people so that they don't order from shadowy sources and do it in an unsupervised way.

So their argument is like they're making it safer than it would be.

Otherwise for the person who's going to use this anyway, but what they're doing is they're basically normalizing this use and making it widely accessible to people who may never even, because it's not, it's not seamless enough, like wouldn't have ever like explored getting these things.

Yeah, I mean, I don't have the whole rundown, but it's a whole battery of things like that.

Yes.

Well, that's true of all of these things.

And recovery is training.

So anything that's going to enhance your recovery pharmacologically is a training enhancement.

Because if you can recover quickly, you can train harder, more consistently without getting sick or overtraining.

And the harder you can push yourself

the more consistently, then you're gonna realize gains.

So you could take a substance, it blows your muscles up, but in all of these situations, you still have to train.

It doesn't obviate training.

And I think we've seen that these aren't miracles.