Richard Boyd Barrett

Yes, but our government has joined with South Africa under pressure, I would say, but it has done it because presumably our state believes it is guilty of genocide.

And I think any reasonable person looking at the horror that has been visited on Gaza and if just they listen to the statements of the leaders of the Israeli regime talking about the annihilation of the people of Gaza, referring, saying it's justified to kill all adults in

In Gaza, the Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Parliament.

You know, I mean, you just don't hear this sort of horrific rhetoric or the practices from any other regime.

And it should be treated, in our view, in the same way as apartheid South Africa was treated.

OK.

First of all, I don't believe that's true.

We are signatories of the Genocide Convention.

And I don't believe for one minute anybody would have a legal case in Europe against us for acting on our obligations under the Genocide Convention, which, remember, was signed to prevent the recurrence of horrors like...

The genocide that happened by the Nazis against the Jewish people and many others during the Second World War, the Holocaust, right?

That is about never again.

And it's happening now.

And we have an obligation.

Every state has an obligation under that convention to act to prevent, not just to punish afterwards, not to sort of just wait until...

for somewhere down the line for there to be accountability, but to actually prevent.

And at the moment, for example, this week, the currency revealed that €20 million of exports to the IDF were approved by the Irish government in 2024.

Shocking, right?

In the midst of the genocidal slaughter in Gaza, the Irish government, and there was a major surge in exports, dual-use exports to the IDF.

This is technology that could be used for civilian purposes, but could also be used for military purposes.

And do we know what it was used for?