Richard Fidler

Was there any good that could come out of such a debacle?

You became very active in the union movement, the Maritime Union, after that, and became a senior official after a while.

Did anything come out of that inquiry and through your activities?

How much safer is it now for seafarers?

How much safer did it become for seafarers after this terrible debacle?

Does so much of this come out of this ancient, ancient tradition as what happens at sea stays at sea?

You're off the mainland, you're in this kind of wild west land now where there isn't really any kind of government or any kind of authority or any supervisory authority.

Is that part of the very ancient culture of seagoing that goes back to the year Dot, I wonder?

I know you're still a haunted without the thought of those three men that died.

But one of the things that kept you going was the thought of the lovely life you might have ahead of you with Joni.

And that's pretty much what happened, isn't it, Mick?

Exactly.

What an extraordinary story, and it's been such an amazing experience hearing you tell it, Mick.

I'm so grateful to you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

I spoke with Mick Dolman earlier this year, and that's our final show for 2025.

Sarah's with me now.

She's got her togs on.

She's got a cricket hat with a beer logo on it.